法國神父通宵陪伴大家
感謝佢帶領大家
和平地、平安地渡過一晚
願平安常與每位同在
「原來香港人是可以不為自己、無私地付出血汗,只為了美好的信念,為了香港將來,為了和平、自由。」
#沸點直擊#已是夜深 【煲底下的法國人 范偉樂神父】
與青年一同祈禱,談 #修身齊家治國平天下
「大家好!明顯地,我不是香港人,我是一個法國人,希望你們聽懂我的廣東話。你們知道嗎?我們在法國罷工罷課,是很專業的!我在這裡,見到那些穿黃背心的朋友,你們或許會知道。不過,在法國罷工罷課,不像現在這樣,很多時人們只是維護自己利益,有時更會發生暴力,就好像「黃背心」(示威行動) 一樣,我們在法國會這樣罷工的。
但這幾天我在香港,見到很多人團結在一起,他們不是為了自己利益,而是為了香港將來、為公義、為自由、為平安,去表達自己的意見和關心,這令我覺得非常感動。
我4年前來到香港,我是一位天主教神父,一心在香港服務。4年前我仍未懂得講中文,那時候,我接觸到香港人,我覺得他們高度崇尚個人主義或者消費主義,又不太願意和別人打招呼,甚至有點冷漠。
但這幾天發生的事,讓我知道,那時候我誤會了。原來香港人可以不為自己,無私地付出血汗,只為了美好的信念、為香港將來、為和平、自由。就像夏主教說的,香港人值得驕傲,這些精神,我們需要珍惜。
起初來港2、3年,我不太清楚香港人身份;他們既是中國人、卻不喜歡中國人的身份?故此我也不大清楚香港人的身份是什麼。不過,這幾天,我開始明白香港人的身份是怎樣的。原來,有這麼多人團結起來,為了維護最重要的價值:自由、和平、仁愛!感謝大家在這幾天參與了這場大型運動!
現在,我正學習中文,最近我學習到一句說話,我相信大家也懂得的:「修身、齊家、治國、平天下」。「平天下」代表我們要平安,這幾天我們在此參與,正是因為「治國」出現了問題。現在「治國」不足,大家也為將來感到恐懼,害怕將來不能像現在般集會,不能擁有宗教自由。
由於治國出現了問題,所以我們現在要出來表達意見,但你們也要謹記:「治國」只是排第三位,排第一位是「修身」,修身即是要自己先要有和平和平安,保護我們和天主的關係,保護我們和別人互愛的關係。
而排第二位是「齊家」,的確,我們在家庭內,會有不同的意見,有時會有衝突或吵架,但我們要在家庭裡,保護愛的關係和包融的關係,互相包融與寬恕,才能補足到「治國」的缺乏。
故此,我們要關心「治國」問題,也要先「修身」和「齊家」,保持這樣的精神才能有真正的平安。真正的自由不單是外在的自由或政治的自由,也是內心的自由。所以我們要向我們的天父祈禱,因為我們的力量有限制,有時會不知該怎樣做,所以我們投奔天主 ,求祂幫助我們。
仁慈的天父,我們今晚在此聚集一起,因我們相信在困難中、在黑暗中,祢時常會與我們同在。求祢賜給我們團結共融的精神,好好保護祢賜給我們的愛和平安,亦為香港社會祈禱,或許香港社會人與人關係有點複雜,但無論我們在哪兒,也求祢讓我們造和平的工具,去做一些小事、 說一句話, 把大家的關係修好,使人與人之間的關係,可以互相包容和幫助。
我們感謝祢,這幾天有許多人為了公義、自由、仁愛而付出,雖然我們不知道將來會怎樣,能否繼續像現在般祈禱或表達意見,但求祢讓我們這份保護團結及和平的精神。因主、耶穌基督之名,求祢俯聽我們的祈禱,亞孟。」
於6月17日凌晨時份
Hello, everyone. It's apparent that I'm not a Hongkonger. I'm French. Hope you can understand my Cantonese.
Well, you know, when we're on strike in France...stop working or going to classes...we're very professional. I see lots of you here wearing a yellow vest. May be you know. However, in France, when we're on strike, it's not like here. People try to protect their own interests and would even gone violent sometimes...just like the Yellow Vest Movement. We would strike like that in France.
But these few days in Hong Kong, lots of people hold onto each other, not for their personal interest but for the future of Hong Kong, for justice, for freedom, for peace...express their opinion and care. I'm really moved.
I came to Hong Kong four years ago. I'm a Catholic priest and I came to serve Hong Kong. Four years ago, I don't know Cantonese. The Hongkongers I came across then gave me a feeling that they're fond of individualism and consumerism. They don't even want to greet each other...apparently a bit cold. But what happened these few days told me that I was wrong then about Hongkongers. Hongkongers can devote their sweat and blood not for their own self benefit but for their ideal, for the future of Hong Kong, for peace and freedom. As Bishop Ha said: Hongkongers, you should be proud of yourselves. Keep this spirit. We should treasure this spirit.
For the first two or three years when I first came to Hong Kong, I'm not quite sure about the identity of Hongkongers.
Hongkongers are Chinese but doesn't really like the identity of being Chinese. Hence, I'm a bit confused. But for the past few days, I begin to understand better the identity of Hongkongers. So many people hold onto each other in solidarity to protect the most valuable notions: freedom, peace and love. Thank you everyone to be part of this massive scale movement.
I'm still learning Chinese. Recently, I learnt a saying...I'm sure you all know that saying: improve your own self, manage your family, govern your country and then peace for all.
'Peace for all' means we all need peace. We're here these few days because there's a bit of problem about 'governing'.
This discrepancy in governing makes everyone worry about the future...worry about the freedom of gathering, the freedom of religion like what we're having now will be gone.
It's because of this discrepancy in governing, people come out to voice their opinion. But please remember, 'govern your country' is only at the third place. The first one is 'improve your own self'. That means, you should first have peace and safety...to protect the relationship between us and God...to protect the love between us and the others.
The second one is 'manage your family'. It's true that we have different opinion in the family. Sometimes, we argue...we have conflicts. But we have to protect the love within our family, accommodate each other, forgive each other so that we can make up to the discrepancy in 'governing'.
Hence, if we're going to care for 'governing our country', we have to, first of all, 'improve our own self' and 'manage our family'. With such a spirit, we will have real peace. Real freedom is not just a superficial freedom or political freedom. It's the inner freedom in our heart. We must pray to our heavenly Father. Our strength is limited. Sometimes, we don't know what to do. We must go to our God and beg for His help.
Merciful God, we're here tonight...we believe that when there is hardship, when we're in the dark, You are with us. Please grant us the spirit of solidarity, so that we can protect the love and peace you gave us. We pray for Hong Kong. May be the relationship among Hongkongers are a bit complicated but wherever we are, please let us be the instrument of peace...do something, may be very small, say a word or two to repair the relationship among us...so we can be accommodative and help each other.
We thank you...for the past few days, lots of people are sacrificing for justice, freedom and love. Although we don't know if in the future, we can pray or express our opinion like what we're doing now, please let us keep up with this spirit of solidarity and peace.
In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Nicolas de Francqueville
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【謎底揭曉】在台灣丟一顆石頭都會打中瞎譯那話兒!
(那話兒:表示不正當或不雅的事。小說中常指人的性器官而言。也作「那樁兒」。)
繼教授譯者謝瑤玲把「現代的祕教者窮得很」(don't have two pennies to rub together)譯成「現代的祕教者並沒有兩根可以搓在一起的陰莖」(two penises),繼教授譯者賴慈芸把「等文稿定案後,再找譯者來翻譯也不遲。」(after the job is done, fetch the translator)譯成「翻完之後,不要給譯者留活口」(after the job is done, kill the translator)之後,實在很難找到可以與之匹敵的胡譯瞎譯,直到最近,為了研究中英譯者如何處理「共匪」的英譯,為了暸解中譯「共匪」對應的英文原文是啥,竟然發現無敵的「丟一顆石頭……打中他那話兒」!
原文/中譯對照如下,應該有足夠的上下文讓有興趣一探究竟的讀者瞧瞧這誤會是怎麼發生的,歸納三個原因:
* 譯者想像力過於旺盛、
* 恍神或不用心,見樹不見林、
* 對原文文法不夠暸解,態度不對而輕忽之。
首先,「丟一顆石頭」的原文是 lob one (發射一個那個東西),那個東西指什麼?從原文脈絡明顯指向前兩句才剛剛說過的 tactical nuclear bombs (戰術核子武器),即使不說「發射一顆戰術核彈」,嫌太累贅,至少要譯成「發射一顆核彈」。
核彈怎會變石頭?譯者顯然查字典或Google了一下,發現動詞 lob (丟、投擲、發射)和 stone 還蠻常一起出現吧?!就給它「丟一顆石頭」下去了,用這種方式理解英文是不行的,one 必須指涉出現過的名詞概念,不然,one 也有「一個人」之意,但顯然「投擲/發射一個人到廁所」根本見鬼,所以譯者可能採取「消去法」,認定這one一定是個「東西」不是人,但也輪不到「石頭」來當the one啊!
其次,「打中他那話兒」的原文是 make sure I hit it,這裡跟前述的 one 一樣,有一個代名詞 it,同樣的,譯者又是對文法不夠尊重,想像力旺盛,從廁所就聯想到男人的那話兒,於是 it 就譯成「his private parts」(他那話兒),準備千古流芳了!但是各位有沒有注意到這個「解法」的矛盾和問題?中文「他那話兒」有一個「他」,他只能代表人,那這個他指涉誰?原文完全沒有出現「他」。譯者該不會希望讀者可以看出他的用意:用擬人法的譬喻,借用「男廁裡,他的那話兒」表達「克里姆林宮的機要位置」?這未免太扯,不太可能吧!這個 it 也指剛剛提過的東西,就是男廁嘛!
建議改譯:
……他曾說自己想要「發射一顆核彈瞄準克里姆林宮的男廁,而且一定要擊中」。
感謝幾位網友參與猜謎遊戲,請自行比對看看你猜中了多少。
這個寧可發揮天馬行空的想像力,也不要按部就班遵循基本英文文法思考所導致的爆笑誤譯,跟賴教授「不要給譯者留活口」的驚世之語,頗有異曲同工之妙:兩人皆是「語不驚人誓不休」(這正好也是書名)!
這樁兒事得來的教訓:
1. 把心用在理解原文和文法,這是翻譯首要的基本功,沒有之一,沒有替代的捷徑。Cue 一下賴教授。
2. 想像力無法控制,很危險,一定要謹記你的角色在哪,不要逾矩。
3. 再好的譯者(如這位陳信宏,中文文筆極佳,我注意欣賞已久,算是英倫哲學才子作家Alan de Botton的「欽定」譯者)都必定有盲點,都一定會出包。所以,任何翻譯都應該找有能力對照原文審核者來過目一次。這是對台灣出版社最衷心的建議。
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//Goldwater, in his heart, believed that he was right. Right about the waste and distaste of the “welfare state” the Johnson administration had built. Right about the need for absolute military strength in the face of Soviet expansion. Right about a foreign policy that would make George Bush’s look downright friendly.
高華德內心深信自己是對的。他認為詹森政府建立的「福利國家」不僅揮霍資源,而且令人厭惡;他認為美國面對蘇聯的擴張,必須建構絕對的軍事實力;而且,他心目中的外交政策強硬至極,與他相比,連小布希都顯得太過友善。
Yes, Goldwater was an extremist and proud of it. His Republican convention acceptance speech is best remembered for the line “I would remind you that extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.”
的確,高華德是個極端主義者,並且以此為傲。他在共和黨代表大會上發表的接受提名演說當中,最令人難忘的一句話就是:「提醒各位,為了捍衛自由而採行的極端主義並非壞事。」
On the subject of foreign policy he was crystal clear about where he would lead the nation. Simply put: leave the United Nations and never look back, break off all relations with the Soviet Union, and use tactical nuclear bombs to fight communists in Vietnam and other Commie strongholds. Not surprisingly, many of his proclamations during the campaign were outrageous. He was quoted as saying he’d like to “lob one into the men’s room of the Kremlin and make sure I hit it.”
在外交政策方面,他清楚表明自己將會把國家帶往什麼方向。簡單說,就是毫不留戀地退出聯合國,斷絕與蘇聯的一切關係,並且利用戰術核子武器攻打越共以及其他共匪巢穴。不出意料,他在選戰期間提出的許多宣言都令人震驚。據傳他曾說自己很想「丟一顆石頭到克里姆林宮的男廁裡,打中他那話兒」。
Small wonder Johnson’s only concern was the extent of the landslide to come. The Democrats quickly seized upon Goldwater’s “let’s nuke ’em when we have the chance” philosophy and came up with their own unofficial slogan to counter “In Your Heart You Know He’s Right.” Their retort: “In Your Guts You Know He’s Nuts.” It didn’t stop there. Bumper stickers appeared with “Goldwater for Halloween” and “Vote for Goldwater and Go to War.”
難怪詹森不怕落敗,只怕贏得不夠多。民主黨緊抓高華德「一有機會就用核彈炸翻他們」的想法,故意惡搞他的口號:「你心知肚明這傢伙瘋了。」不只如此,當時還出現了不少保險桿貼紙,內容包括:「一票投給高華德,天天都是萬聖節」或者「想上戰場,就選高華德」。
To top it all off, the Johnson advertising team created the famous “Daisy” commercial. It showed a little girl plucking petals from a daisy as a nuclear countdown ends in a huge mushroom cloud explosion. President Johnson’s voiceover was, roughly, “vote for me or God help us all.”
此外,詹森的宣傳團隊還攝製了著名的「雛菊」廣告。畫面上只見一名小女孩在核彈攻擊倒數的同時拔著一朵雛菊的花瓣,倒數結束後,隨即轟然出現爆炸後的巨大蕈狀雲。詹森總統的旁白大致上是說:「請投我一票,不然只好祈求上帝保佑了。」//
#對照原文審校翻譯不可少
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Teachings from Red Hat Lama Shamar Rinpoche
紅冠法王夏瑪仁波切的開示
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20160720
'Wherever there are world systems and beings,
May I be like the lotus, not clung to by water,
And the sun and the moon, unhindered in the sky.'
‘諸惑業及魔境, 世間道中得解脫, 猶如蓮花不著水, 亦如日月不住空’
The lotus flower is used as a metaphor to illustrate the bodhisattva's conduct along the path. Bodhisattvas are not far removed from sentient beings. They don't live in mountain caves, but are very close to all beings and always have the desire to help and liberate them. Lotuses have their roots in dirty mud, but yet, their pure white blossoms remain pristine and untouched by the mud. In the same way bodhisattva practitioners along the path are not contaminated by the habitual tendencies and karma of the sentient beings that they are trying to liberate.
蓮花是用來比喻在修道上菩薩的行為。菩薩不是遠離眾生的。他們不是住在山洞裡面,而是很貼近一切眾生,並恆常地希望幫助和讓他們解脫。蓮花生於淤泥,但是,它們純白的花朵保持潔淨和不沾泥。同一方式,在修道上的菩薩不受他們幫助解脫的眾生的習氣和業所沾染。
If we harbor no hatred, no anger toward another sentient being, and the motivation for our actions is rooted in bodhicitta, then even in times of aggression we can still attain enlightenment, because our activities are uncontaminated by any affliction. With genuine bodhicitta in our mind, we do not hope for any return for our deeds, such as wanting to gain any wealth or fame in return as a reward for practicing generosity. Just as the sun and the moon benefit the world spontaneously and have no concept of "What would be good for me?" in the same way, our genuine bodhicitta is not tainted by the hope for any return. Rather, our mind is imbued with pure wishes to spontaneously benefit all sentient beings.
若果我們對另一位有情眾生沒有憤怒、嗔心,而我們行動的動機是基於菩提心,那在我們感受到威脅時,我們仍然可以得到圓滿正覺,因為我們的行動不受煩惱所染。當我們心識包含著真正的菩提心事時,我們不求回報,譬如是布施後得到財富或聲譽。就像日與月應運地利益這世界,和沒有“什麼能利益自己”的概念;同一方式,真正的菩提心不受回報的慾望所沾染。反而,我們的心識充滿了應運地利益所有眾生的純正願望。
“The King of Prayers, a commentary on The Noble King of Prayers of Excellent Conduct”, pg. 28. (英文版『普賢行願王論著』第28頁。)
20160711
When we are fully awake, mind is free of the object with which it connects to through thoughts, perceptions and feelings. Mind is unobstructed. You neither have a single thought nor many thoughts. Mind does not exist substantially. Mind is no longer ignorant or stupid in the deepest sense. But we should understand that self-realization is not like being in a coma. Instead, there is clarity and power. Self-realized mind is free from the influence of phenomena. It is mind free from all need to occupy itself; it is now an independent mind.
當我們得到圓滿正覺,心識不會受憑著思想、認知和感受所聯繫的對境所牽引。心識是無障礙的。你沒有單一或眾多的思想。心識不會實質地存在。深層裡,心識不再無知或愚蠢。但是我們應該理解證悟不是像昏迷了。反而,那裡有澄明和力量。自覺的心識不受事物的影響。它是一個不需要做作的心識;現在它是一個獨立的心識。
“From Calming Our Minds is the First Step, teaching given at Bodhi Path Washington, DC Metro Area in Spring 2004.”
(節錄自『平靜心識是第一步』-2004春,在華盛頓菩提道學院的開示)
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As long as we perceive and experience the various sense objects, but are not self-aware at the same time, we react in a kind of autopilot mode. Such a preoccupied state of mind is actually a kind of stupor or drowsiness, and is based on the ignorance of dense mental states in which self-awareness is lacking. It is an automatically occurring ongoing series of cognitive acts and reactions that take place without our being in touch with the self-reflective, self-aware aspect of our mind. In short, the reflective capacity of the mind that is the basis of wisdom remains inactive. Mental activity that proceeds without our being connected with mind's pervasive self-aware capacity is simply ignorant mental activity. It is a kind of noise that serves to distract mind from its actual nature.
只要我們感知和體驗各種感覺對象,但同時不自覺,我們會以一種自動駕駛模式進行反應。 這種心識狀態其實就是一種昏睡或嗜睡,是基於缺乏自我認知的遲鈍精神狀態的無知。 這是一連串的自發性認知行為和反應,並沒有經心識自我反思和自我認知。 簡而言之,作為智慧基礎的心靈的反思能力沒有啟動。 簡單地說,沒有跟我們心識的完全自知能力所聯繫起來的都是無知的心識活動。這是一種噪音,會讓心識對自己實際的性質分心。
Once training in mindful calm abiding has tamed and pacified the cascade of thoughts, inner images, and emotions, mind's awareness that is aware of itself can emerge on its own accord. In this sense, moments of clarity arise naturally.
經過止定的修持馴服和平息如瀑布般的思想、內在映像、和情緒,心的自覺性能自然流露。在這情況下,澄明的霎那自然生起。
"Boundless Awakening", pg 16-17. (英文版『無量覺』第16-17頁)
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you don't own me中文 在 大麻煩翻譯組JackO Youtube 的最佳解答
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_PChGfJN8
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感謝他陪我們搞這個搞了一整天! 這個人英文好又繪畫畫OuO/
之前的Bad Luck Jack也是他翻譯的喔! 大家可以去他的頁面看看!
封面是也栗奇大大做的喔!
註解區:
(這次的客戶Mayberry女士真的有夠雖... 被綠失控下了地獄後還要被活著的小三嘲諷...)
1:58 感謝 "Jia Fang" 觀眾告知Mayberry女士應該是說"Don't forget to do your times table(乘法表)."
這裡我以為老師是在交代學生要記得做時間規劃 (Time table), 但被這位觀眾這麼一說之後我覺得乘法表更合理了, 畢竟是幼教老師, 因此這裡應該要是Times table才對
2:05 她說"And still get sent down here with all the Hitlers and Epsteins of the world."
兩個名詞分別是歷史上著名人物的名字,背後的涵義就是他們做過最衝擊性的事情
希特勒是納粹種族主義曾大屠殺的人,Epstein是曾經強暴過少女的富豪
兩個都是不好的意象
2:44 這個女的是說"found peace"
一般而言,我們說希望瘋子能find peace,是希望她能夠平靜下來(放下)並找到自己的安寧
但... 她說的女瘋子(這次的客戶)已經自殺了,中文裡的找到安寧比起放下,更接近回歸正常心靈的感覺
因此我們這裡翻譯成希望她安息(死後的安寧)
3:23 辦公室的緊急按鈕真的很靠北
還有個是Ghost,身在地獄還會怕鬼喔XD
3:29
Millie應該是說"our only held hand" (幫忙拿東西的手)
我們這裡一直沒聽出這個字, 一開始我們第一個字都聽成Hell
太糾結第一個字了所以後來把它解讀成"hell ham" (地獄的電話人員)
但held hand比較合理, 接著下一句Loona諷刺的說 "我還真是被寵愛呢" 就合邏輯了
5:41 "Snooze, you lose!"
這句"打盹你就輸嘍" 就是類似你錯過/猶豫/等太久 就沒嘍
的意思
8:29 他把"Anyway" 改成 "Anyhoo" 來說了
後者是參了貓頭鷹的叫聲
9:27
"Come to drag me and my candle hell."
Me and my candle(蠟燭) 這個說法應該是取自另一種說詞
人的蠟燭 = 那個人的左右手/助理/或身旁的人
典故似乎是因為以前的工匠要有別人在旁邊幫忙拿蠟燭照明,而有了這種說法
這個女的的殺人助理就是她家人,因此為了流暢我們翻譯成家人
10:17 她用的詞是"thy"
是古英文的"you"或"your"
12:18 "wank-off" 另一種說法的打手槍
說法非常多種呢,這只是其一而已
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Raw01 is the ultimate 1st version of Vince Way's original song, recorded exactly the moment it was born. A demo is a final version in its own way - perfectly raw as it should be. May whatever blossoms from it later on, its essence remains only in version Raw01.
Raw01是弘正原創歌曲的終極第一版,準確記錄了它誕生的一刻。這些DEMO以後會不斷的進化,但此版本依然是完的最初。
Up Running
詞 Lyrics: 弘正 Vince Way
I've been up and alone
Feel like I don't belong
In a world has gone so wrong
Yet it’s the only place I know
Keep me safe in the zone
Been told to keep on fighting
Till we see a silver lining
In between the closing door
And I ve been dreaming
Pleading your love
Will you ever come
I've been blinded too blind to notice
Our moment has begun
You got me
Up up running up and running again
You woke me up up honey up from all the lost dreams
I ve been afraid what’s coming
So afraid I lost it
Wake up now honey
Up into a new scene
To the new scene
A world we’ve never seen yea
Now get up all the way
We've never made mistakes
Just chances that we take to see
if anyone relate
Aren’t we one and the same?
Hop on a flight tomorrow
Pack up the guilt and sorrow
That we’re barely holding on
And now I'm dreaming
Pleading your love
Could you be the one
To get me
Up up running up and running again
To wake me up up honey up from all the lost dreams
I was afraid what's coming
So afraid I lost it
Wake up now honey
Up into the scene
To the new scene
To the new scene Yea
To a new scene
A world that we've never seen
Been blinded Too blind to notice
Our moment just begun
Now get up all the way
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