Jenna Cody :
Is Taiwan a real China?
No, and with the exception of a few intervening decades - here’s the part that’ll surprise you - it never has been.
This’ll blow your mind too: that it never has been doesn’t matter.
So let’s start with what doesn’t actually matter.
Until the 1600s, Taiwan was indigenous. Indigenous Taiwanese are not Chinese, they’re Austronesian. Then it was a Dutch colony (note: I do not say “it was Dutch”, I say it was a Dutch colony). Then it was taken over by Ming loyalists at the end of the Ming dynasty (the Ming loyalists were breakaways, not a part of the new Qing court. Any overlap in Ming rule and Ming loyalist conquest of Taiwan was so brief as to be inconsequential).
Only then, in the late 1600s, was it taken over by the Chinese (Qing). But here’s the thing, it was more like a colony of the Qing, treated as - to use Emma Teng’s wording in Taiwan’s Imagined Geography - a barrier or barricade keeping the ‘real’ Qing China safe. In fact, the Qing didn’t even want Taiwan at first, the emperor called it “a ball of mud beyond the pale of civilization”. Prior to that, and to a great extent at that time, there was no concept on the part of China that Taiwan was Chinese, even though Chinese immigrants began moving to Taiwan under Dutch colonial rule (mostly encouraged by the Dutch, to work as laborers). When the Spanish landed in the north of Taiwan, it was the Dutch, not the Chinese, who kicked them out.
Under Qing colonial rule - and yes, I am choosing my words carefully - China only controlled the Western half of Taiwan. They didn’t even have maps for the eastern half. That’s how uninterested in it they were. I can’t say that the Qing controlled “Taiwan”, they only had power over part of it.
Note that the Qing were Manchu, which at the time of their conquest had not been a part of China: China itself essentially became a Manchu imperial holding, and Taiwan did as well, once they were convinced it was not a “ball of mud” but actually worth taking. Taiwan was not treated the same way as the rest of “Qing China”, and was not administered as a province until (I believe) 1887. So that’s around 200 years of Taiwan being a colony of the Qing.
What happened in the late 19th century to change China’s mind? Japan. A Japanese ship was shipwrecked in eastern Taiwan in the 1870s, and the crew was killed by hostile indigenous people in what is known as the Mudan Incident. A Japanese emissary mission went to China to inquire about what could be done, only to be told that China had no control there and if they went to eastern Taiwan, they did so at their own peril. China had not intended to imply that Taiwan wasn’t theirs, but they did. Japan - and other foreign powers, as France also attempted an invasion - were showing an interest in Taiwan, so China decided to cement its claim, started mapping the entire island, and made it a province.
So, I suppose for a decade or so Taiwan was a part of China. A China that no longer exists.
It remained a province until 1895, when it was ceded to Japan after the (first) Sino-Japanese War. Before that could happen, Taiwan declared itself a Republic, although it was essentially a Qing puppet state (though the history here is interesting - correspondence at the time indicates that the leaders of this ‘Republic of Taiwan’ considered themselves Chinese, and the tiger flag hints at this as well. However, the constitution was a very republican document, not something you’d expect to see in Qing-era China.) That lasted for less than a year, when the Japanese took it by force.
This is important for two reasons - the first is that some interpretations of IR theory state that when a colonial holding is released, it should revert to the state it was in before it was taken as a colony. In this case, that would actually be The Republic of Taiwan, not Qing-era China. Secondly, it puts to rest all notions that there was no Taiwan autonomy movement prior to 1947.
In any case, it would be impossible to revert to its previous state, as the government that controlled it - the Qing empire - no longer exists. The current government of China - the PRC - has never controlled it.
After the Japanese colonial era, there is a whole web of treaties and agreements that do not satisfactorily settle the status of Taiwan. None of them actually do so - those which explicitly state that Taiwan is to be given to the Republic of China (such as the Cairo declaration) are non-binding. Those that are binding do not settle the status of Taiwan (neither the treaty of San Francisco nor the Treaty of Taipei definitively say that Taiwan is a part of China, or even which China it is - the Treaty of Taipei sets out what nationality the Taiwanese are to be considered, but that doesn’t determine territorial claims). Treaty-wise, the status of Taiwan is “undetermined”.
Under more modern interpretations, what a state needs to be a state is…lessee…a contiguous territory, a government, a military, a currency…maybe I’m forgetting something, but Taiwan has all of it. For all intents and purposes it is independent already.
In fact, in the time when all of these agreements were made, the Allied powers weren’t as sure as you might have learned about what to do with Taiwan. They weren’t a big fan of Chiang Kai-shek, didn’t want it to go Communist, and discussed an Allied trusteeship (which would have led to independence) or backing local autonomy movements (which did exist). That it became what it did - “the ROC” but not China - was an accident (as Hsiao-ting Lin lays out in Accidental State).
In fact, the KMT knew this, and at the time the foreign minister (George Yeh) stated something to the effect that they were aware they were ‘squatters’ in Taiwan.
Since then, it’s true that the ROC claims to be the rightful government of Taiwan, however, that hardly matters when considering the future of Taiwan simply because they have no choice. To divest themselves of all such claims (and, presumably, change their name) would be considered by the PRC to be a declaration of formal independence. So that they have not done so is not a sign that they wish to retain the claim, merely that they wish to avoid a war.
It’s also true that most Taiwanese are ethnically “Han” (alongside indigenous and Hakka, although Hakka are, according to many, technically Han…but I don’t think that’s relevant here). But biology is not destiny: what ethnicity someone is shouldn’t determine what government they must be ruled by.
Through all of this, the Taiwanese have evolved their own culture, identity and sense of history. They are diverse in a way unique to Taiwan, having been a part of Austronesian and later Hoklo trade routes through Southeast Asia for millenia. Now, one in five (I’ve heard one in four, actually) Taiwanese children has a foreign parent. The Taiwanese language (which is not Mandarin - that’s a KMT transplant language forced on Taiwanese) is gaining popularity as people discover their history. Visiting Taiwan and China, it is clear where the cultural differences are, not least in terms of civic engagement. This morning, a group of legislators were removed after a weekend-long pro-labor hunger strike in front of the presidential palace. They were not arrested and will not be. Right now, a group of pro-labor protesters is lying down on the tracks at Taipei Main Station to protest the new labor law amendments.
This would never be allowed in China, but Taiwanese take it as a fiercely-guarded basic right.
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Now, as I said, none of this matters.
What matters is self-determination. If you believe in democracy, you believe that every state (and Taiwan does fit the definition of a state) that wants to be democratic - that already is democratic and wishes to remain that way - has the right to self-determination. In fact, every nation does. You cannot be pro-democracy and also believe that it is acceptable to deprive people of this right, especially if they already have it.
Taiwan is already a democracy. That means it has the right to determine its own future. Period.
Even under the ROC, Taiwan was not allowed to determine its future. The KMT just arrived from China and claimed it. The Taiwanese were never asked if they consented. What do we call it when a foreign government arrives in land they had not previously governed and declares itself the legitimate governing power of that land without the consent of the local people? We call that colonialism.
Under this definition, the ROC can also be said to be a colonial power in Taiwan. They forced Mandarin - previously not a language native to Taiwan - onto the people, taught Chinese history, geography and culture, and insisted that the Taiwanese learn they were Chinese - not Taiwanese (and certainly not Japanese). This was forced on them. It was not chosen. Some, for awhile, swallowed it. Many didn’t. The independence movement only grew, and truly blossomed after democratization - something the Taiwanese fought for and won, not something handed to them by the KMT.
So what matters is what the Taiwanese want, not what the ROC is forced to claim. I cannot stress this enough - if you do not believe Taiwan has the right to this, you do not believe in democracy.
And poll after poll shows it: Taiwanese identify more as Taiwanese than Chinese (those who identify as both primarily identify as Taiwanese, just as I identify as American and Armenian, but primarily as American. Armenian is merely my ethnicity). They overwhelmingly support not unifying with China. The vast majority who support the status quo support one that leads to eventual de jure independence, not unification. The status quo is not - and cannot be - an endgame (if only because China has declared so, but also because it is untenable). Less than 10% want unification. Only a small number (a very small minority) would countenance unification in the future…even if China were to democratize.
The issue isn’t the incompatibility of the systems - it’s that the Taiwanese fundamentally do not see themselves as Chinese.
A change in China’s system won’t change that. It’s not an ethnic nationalism - there is no ethnic argument for Taiwan (or any nation - didn’t we learn in the 20th century what ethnicity-based nation-building leads to? Nothing good). It’s not a jingoistic or xenophobic nationalism - Taiwanese know that to be dangerous. It’s a nationalism based on shared identity, culture, history and civics. The healthiest kind of nationalism there is. Taiwan exists because the Taiwanese identify with it. Period.
There are debates about how long the status quo should go on, and what we should risk to insist on formal recognition. However, the question of whether or not to be Taiwan, not China…
…well, that’s already settled.
The Taiwanese have spoken and they are not Chinese.
Whatever y’all think about that doesn’t matter. That’s what they want, and if you believe in self-determination you will respect it.
If you don’t, good luck with your authoritarian nonsense, but Taiwan wants nothing to do with it.
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“Imagine you were born in 1900.
When you are 14
World War I begins
and ends at 18
with 22 million deaths.
Soon after, a global pandemic
The Spanish Flu
kills 50 million people.
You come out alive and free
You are 20 years old.
Then, at age 29, you survive the global economic crisis that began with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange, causing inflation, unemployment and hunger.
At 33, the Nazis came to power.
You are 39 when WWII begins and ends at 45. During the Holocaust (Shoah), 6 million Jews died. There will be more than 60 million deaths in total.
When you are 52, the Korean War begins.
At 64, the Vietnam War begins and ends at 75.
A boy born in 1985 thinks his grandparents have no idea how difficult life is, but they have survived several wars and disasters.
Boy born in 1995 and now 25 thinks it's the end of the world when his Amazon package takes more than three days to arrive or when he doesn't get more than 15 likes for his photo posted on Facebook or Instagram.
In 2020, many of us are living comfortably, we have access to different sources of home entertainment, and we often have more than we need.
But people are complaining about everything.
However, they have electricity, telephones, food, hot water and a roof over their heads.
None of this existed before.
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Maybe it’s time for some gratitude and love 🖤
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临睡前看到一段很有意思的文字。
原文是英文,我用google translate翻去中文并修了怪怪的句子了✌🏻
如下...
想象一下,您是在1900年出生的。
当您14岁时,第一次世界大战开始到结束,而您18岁时有2,200万死亡。
全球流感大流行之后不久,西班牙流感爆发,造成5千万人死亡。 您还活着,只有20岁。
当您29岁时,您可以度过全球经济危机,这场危机始于纽约证券交易所的倒闭,引发了通货膨胀,失业和饥荒。
当您33岁时,纳粹掌权。
当您39岁时,第二次世界大战开始并结束,当您45岁时有六千万人死亡。 在大屠杀中,有600万犹太人死亡。
当您52岁时,朝鲜战争就开始了。
当您64岁时,越南战争将在75岁时开始并结束
1985年生的一个孩子认为他的祖父母不知道生活有多么艰难,但他们在几次战争和灾难中幸存下来。
今天,在舒适的新世界中出现了新病毒。
人们抱怨,因为他们必须呆在家里几个星期,他们有电,手机,食物,住在舒服的家里甚至还有热水。看看旧时,情况并没如此理想,但是人类还是幸存下来,也没抱怨日子过的无趣。
可今天我们却因为必须戴口罩才能进入超市而抱怨。
我们观点的微小改变会产生奇迹。 感恩我们还活着。既然活着就该尽力自保以及互相帮助!
🍃🍂🍃
Imagine for a moment you were born in 1900.
When you're 14 years old World War I begins and ends when you're 18 with a 22 million dead.
Soon after a global pandemic, the Spanish Flu, appears, killing 50 million people. And you are alive and 20 years old.
When you're 29 you survive the global economic crisis that began with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange, causing inflation, unemployment and famine.
When you're 33 years old nazis come to power.
When you're 39 years old, World War II begins and ends when you're 45 years old with a 60 million dead. In the Holocaust 6 million Jews die.
When you're 52 years old the Korean War begins.
When you're 64 years old the Vietnam war begins and ends when you're 75
A child born in 1985 thinks his grandparents have no idea how difficult life is, but they have survived several wars and disasters.
Today we find all the comforts in a new world, amid a new pandemic.
People complain because for several weeks they must stay confined in their homes, they have electricity, cell phone, food, some even with hot water and a safe roof over their heads. None of that existed back in the days. But humanity survived those circumstances and never lost their joy of living.
Today we complain because we have to wear masks to get into supermarkets.
A small change in our perspective can generate miracles. Let's thank you and I that we are alive and we will do everything necessary to protect and help each other!
🍃🍂🍃
none in spanish 在 Chanana Banana Time Youtube 的最佳貼文
Hi everyone! I hope you're safe and well! (下有中文)
I finally decided to edit and upload my Twitch stream VODs. Thanks to the pandemic I have lot more time and lot less income.🥲 I can't really upgrade my PC nor PS4 so the video quality might not be very good. I hope you don't mind!
With that being said, I really enjoy playing this game and it has a strong RE4 vibe which is my favorite of the whole series. I'll upload the full gameplay and hopefully more to come. Thanks for watching and have a great day! 🙏🏻
☞ I speaks Chinese, English, some Spanish and a bit Japanese. I switch language during streaming since there are people from all parts of the world in my chat and I love that! You're welcome to join my live session too!
☞ Live schedule none fix due to the nature of... me🤷🏻♀️ and my job. In case you'd like to join I always post IG/FB story before streaming and I usually stream 1-2 days every week.
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none in spanish 在 Chanana Banana Time Youtube 的精選貼文
Hi everyone! I hope you're safe and well! (下有中文)
I finally decided to edit and upload my Twitch stream VODs. Thanks to the pandemic I have lot more time and lot less income.🥲 I can't really upgrade my PC nor PS4 so the video quality might not be very good. I hope you don't mind!
With that being said, I really enjoy playing this game and it has a strong RE4 vibe which is my favorite of the whole series. I'll upload the full gameplay and hopefully more to come. Thanks for watching and have a great day! 🙏🏻
☞ I speaks Chinese, English, some Spanish and a bit Japanese. I switch language during streaming since there are people from all parts of the world in my chat and I love that! You're welcome to join my live session too!
☞ Live schedule none fix due to the nature of... me🤷🏻♀️ and my job. In case you'd like to join I always post IG/FB story before streaming and I usually stream 1-2 days every week.
☞ For donate / collab / promote please DM my IG. Work related only.
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嗨!我把在Twitch的實況內容整理過來囉,一直以來是惡靈系列的忠實玩家,8代真的很有4代的感覺我玩得很開心❤️ 我不是專業主播純粹喜歡打遊戲,平台是PS4然後電腦設備也很陽春,疫情期間呈半失業狀態實在無法更新硬體請大家見諒🥲 如果有人喜歡我會盡量多上傳的!大家防疫加油喔!🙏🏻
☞ 我說多國語言所以直播時會根據觀眾組成換來換去,不是精神分裂。
☞ 播出時間不固定,因為我的工作沒有時間規律。開播前會先在 IG/FB 限時動態公告時間,通常是台灣時間的晚上到深夜,一週約1~2天。夜貓子歡迎來玩!
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none in spanish 在 Chanana Banana Time Youtube 的最佳貼文
Hi everyone! I hope you're safe and well! (下有中文)
I finally decided to edit and upload my Twitch stream VODs. Thanks to the pandemic I have lot more time and lot less income.🥲 I can't really upgrade my PC nor PS4 so the video quality might not be very good. I hope you don't mind!
With that being said, I really enjoy playing this game and it has a strong RE4 vibe which is my favorite of the whole series. I'll upload the full gameplay and hopefully more to come. Thanks for watching and have a great day! 🙏🏻
☞ I speaks Chinese, English, some Spanish and a bit Japanese. I switch language during streaming since there are people from all parts of the world in my chat and I love that! You're welcome to join my live session too!
☞ Live schedule none fix due to the nature of... me🤷🏻♀️ and my job. In case you'd like to join I always post IG/FB story before streaming and I usually stream 1-2 days every week.
☞ For donate / collab / promote please DM my IG. Work related only.
● Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/qqchana
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嗨!我把在Twitch的實況內容整理過來囉,一直以來是惡靈系列的忠實玩家,8代真的很有4代的感覺我玩得很開心❤️ 我不是專業主播純粹喜歡打遊戲,平台是PS4然後電腦設備也很陽春,疫情期間呈半失業狀態實在無法更新硬體請大家見諒🥲 如果有人喜歡我會盡量多上傳的!大家防疫加油喔!🙏🏻
☞ 我說多國語言所以直播時會根據觀眾組成換來換去,不是精神分裂。
☞ 播出時間不固定,因為我的工作沒有時間規律。開播前會先在 IG/FB 限時動態公告時間,通常是台灣時間的晚上到深夜,一週約1~2天。夜貓子歡迎來玩!
☞ 贊助/合作/業配 請私訊IG或FB粉專,非工作相關不會回覆。
● Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/qqchana
● IG 本人:https://www.instagram.com/qqchana
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