EP71 社群網戰後的創業故事 臉書度過危機的關鍵決策成為科技巨頭
#本集充滿了時代的眼淚不禁潸然淚下
大多數人對於臉書創業故事的印象來自於電影社群網戰 The social network，電影描述了馬克從 0 到 1 於2004 年前後在哈佛創立臉書的故事，但鮮少人提到臉書後來規模化成為科技巨頭的過程，今天就來聊聊臉書在 2011 ~ 2014 的關鍵時刻，這段期間經歷了不少事件，不僅 IPO 上市，還做出了幾個重大的關鍵決定：全公司轉型成 Mobile、與 Google+ 的直接競爭還有 Instagram、WhatsApp 以及 Oculus 的併購，就讓我們乘著時光機來聊聊這段歷史吧！
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社群網戰 在 [外電] 爛番茄影評：社群網戰- 精華區movie 的美食出口停車場
前言：不曉得是不是巧合，在這幾次爛番茄影評整理的系列文章中
每次我翻完爛片的影評，接下來著手的都是獲得高度讚譽
甚至是有機會挑戰奧斯卡的電影
上次降世神通之後，我選了全面啟動
那這次就讓社群網戰，來緩和大家看完天際浩劫的憤怒吧！
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the-social-network/
The Social Network (2010)
Tomatometer：97
Average Rating: 9/10
Reviews Counted: 251
Fresh: 244 | Rotten: 7
Impeccably scripted, beautifully directed, and filled with fine performances,
The Social Network is a riveting, ambitious example of modern filmmaking at
its finest.
總結：沒有瑕疵的劇本、漂亮的導演手法，與大量優質的演出，都讓社片成為現代
電影製作中，有趣又有企圖心的最佳典範
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正評
Widgett Walls
Needcoffee.com
FRESH，4.5/5
The film is...kind of like a portrait of Now.
對當代最有力的描繪之一
Bob Grimm
Reno News and Review
FRESH，4.8/5
We have Facebook because some dude got dumped. I can believe that.
我們會有臉書是因為故事的主角被甩了？關於這點，我相信！
Charlie McCollum
San Jose Mercury News
FRESH，4/4
You will know The Social Network is something very special from its first
scene.
打從第一場戲開始，你就會知道社群網站將是一部很特別的電影
Bill Gibron
PopMatters
FRESH，4.5/5
a fabulous post-modern fable
一部棒透的後現代寓言
J. R. Jones
Chicago Reader
FRESH，4/4
Watching The Social Network, the real Zuckerberg may feel as if someone has
hacked into his Facebook account and changed his profile picture.
我猜索克柏本尊在看本片的時候，應該會有某位駭客成功入侵他的臉書帳號，並將
他的資料更改的感覺
從某方面來說，這也是對男主角傑西愛森柏格演技的肯定
Joe Neumaier
New York Daily News
FRESH，5/5
Weeks after seeing it, moments from it will haunt you.
即使過了幾週，片中的不少時刻仍然會在你的心頭上縈繞著
Chris Bumbray
JoBlo's Movie Emporium
FRESH，9/10
Possibly the film of the year. Much more than just a facebook movie.
可能是今年的最佳電影，因為他已經不只是一部關於臉書的電影了
Radheyan Simonpillai
AskMen.com
FRESH，100/100
It's the classic American tale of success, power and greed, but one that's
updated for the online generation -- like There Will Be Blood on apps.
一部典型關於成功、權力與貪婪，卻更符合網路世代的美國傳奇，就像是網路應用
程式版本的黑金企業
Stephen Whitty
Newark Star-Ledger
FRESH，4/4
The Social Network is one of those movies that cares more about whether
something "feels" real than whether it is.
對「感覺真實」在乎程度勝過「實際真實」的電影之一
Lou Lumenick
New York Post
FRESH
It's the finest film in many years to open the New York Film Festival.
紐約影展有史以來最棒的開幕片
紐約影展是1963年開始舉辦的活動，目前已經是該活動的48年
Quite possibly the first truly great fact-based movie of the 21st century.
或許也是21世紀第一部真正偉大的真人真事改編電影
James Berardinelli
ReelViews
FRESH，3.5/4
This is the 2010 Oscar season's first drama to live up to the hype and
expectations associated with it.
今年奧斯卡季節中，第一部能成功達到業界與觀眾期望的劇情片
Joe Baltake
Passionate Moviegoer
FRESH
Fincher and Sorkin's ironic essay on both the advances and decline in social
networking
芬奇與索金對社群網路竄起與衰敗具有反諷性力道的評論
Andrew O'Hehir
Salon.com
FRESH
Is The Social Network one of the fall season's best big movies? Without
question.
今年秋天最棒的電影？無庸置疑！
Catherine Jones
Liverpool Echo
FRESH
The Social Network is technically flawless, powered by Fincher's dazzling
direction...
技術上來說，本片完美無暇，這得歸功於芬奇讓人讚嘆的指導
Robbie Collin
News of the World
FRESH，5/5
The Social Network is one of the movies for which 2010 will be remembered.
一提到2010仍然會被想起的電影之一
Steve Rhodes
Internet Reviews
FRESH，4/4
Polish up the Oscar and get ready to give it to Eisenberg, an actor whom most
people have never seen before.
奧斯卡準備將影帝獎座擦亮，並將它賜給愛森柏格－這位多數影迷先前從未見過的
演員吧！
Scott Nash
Three Movie Buffs
FRESH，4/4
You can pencil Aaron Sorkin in for the Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar right
now.
給想要預測奧斯卡結果的影迷：你們現在就可以在最佳改編劇本這欄寫上亞倫索金
的名字了！
Tony Medley
Tolucan Times
FRESH，10/10
Eisenberg gives a performance so captivating that I could sit through the
movie again, just to watch him.
愛森柏格在片中讓人神魂顛倒的表現，讓我願意再去一次電影院－這次只為了看他！
D.K. Holm
Vancouver Voice
FRESH
The Social Network is one of the saddest movies ever made
影史最讓人感到傷感的電影之一
Jeanne Kaplan
Kaplan vs. Kaplan
FRESH
Hallelujah! Finally, a movie with the kind of dialogue we deserve!
感謝主，我們終於有了一部值得聽對話的電影！
Stephen Silver
The Trend
FRESH，5/5
The best movie ever made about e-commerce, as well as the Internet itself.
以電子商務，甚至網路本身為主題的電影中，本片是最棒的一部
Willie Waffle
WaffleMovies.com
FRESH，4/4
If you want to see an enthralling movie about business in the 21st century,
forget about that stinker Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.
如果你想看一部迷人的21世紀商業題材電影，你現在就可以把討厭的華爾街2給
忘掉了！
Tim Basham
Paste Magazine
FRESH
Never before have coding and algorithms been so titillating.
我第一次覺得程式碼與演算法可以這麼有趣！
Kelly Vance
East Bay Express
FRESH
The Social Network is a bland title for such a thrilling, ballsy, intelligent
movie
社片是一部片名平淡但充滿刺激、膽量與智慧的電影
Patrick Kolan
IGN Movies AU
FRESH，4.5/5
Fincher has constructed a wonderfully balanced tale of a young narcissistic
genius in want of status and recognition
芬奇成功又奇蹟似平衡地說出一個少年自戀天才追求地位與認同感的傳奇故事
Rebecca Murray
About.com
FRESH，A
An unforgettable, conversation-provoking, ballsy film.
一部無法忘記、對白精采，且充滿膽識的電影
Erik Davis
Cinematical
FRESH
With a lot of help from Sorkin's (potentially Oscar-worthy) script, David
Fincher has crafted his most humorous film since Fight Club.
在索金值得獲得奧斯卡獎的劇本加持之下，大衛芬奇拍出了鬥陣俱樂部之後最有
幽默感的電影
Walter Chaw
Film Freak Central
FRESH，4/4
It's Fight Club without Marla.
就像是沒有瑪拉的鬥陣俱樂部
補充解釋：瑪拉是鬥片主角"敘事者"的愛人，這除了提醒TSN沒有女主角
也暗示本片將愛情元素給刪除了
Owen Gleiberman
Entertainment Weekly
FRESH，A
The Social Network has everything you want in a thriller for the brain: huge
doses of ego and duplicity, corporate backstabbing, and some very layered
performances.
社群網戰擁有你心目中完美動腦驚悚片的一切元素：大量的自我中心與口是心非、
商場上的出賣行為，以及一些非常深層的演出
Gary Thompson
Philadelphia Daily News
FRESH，A
In the opening few minutes of The Social Network, all you see are two college
kids yakking, and it's the most enthralling movie sequence of the year.
在開場中，你看到的只是兩名年輕大學生的瞎聊，但這正是今年電影裡最讓人著迷
的一場戲
Gabe Leibowitz
Film and Felt
FRESH，92/100
The Social Network is a sweeping look at the mind, our generation and era,
and our future.
對人類心理、我們這個世代與生長的年代，甚至未來的全方位觀察
Duane Dudek
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
FRESH，3.5/4
It's a smart bomb of a film that illustrates how technology and innovation
influence human behavior.
這是一顆成功描寫科技與新事務如何影響人類行為的智慧型炸彈！
Tim Martain
The Mercury
FRESH，3.5/5
Just how much of the story is really true is anyone's guess but the brilliant
script and Eisenberg's performance make it worth seeing in any case.
社片的真實程度有多少，眾說紛紜，但可以確定的是：出色的劇本與愛森柏格的演出
都讓本片充滿觀賞價值
Daniel Hubschman
Hollywood.com
FRESH，5/5
The Social Network is more a meditation on right vs. wrong than a chronicle
of the birth of Facebook and it is a more affecting film because of that.
社群網戰中對善惡反思的成份比記錄臉書誕生的過程還要多，也因此讓電影本身更有
影響力
Pete Hammond
Boxoffice Magazine
FRESH，5/5
As socially significant to this generation as films like Network, All The
President's Men and The Graduate were in their own time.
對於這個世代的重要程度，就好比三、四十年前的螢光幕後、大陰謀與畢業生
Jim Vejvoda
IGN Movies
FRESH，4/4
As great as the film is, you can't overlook the fact that if you knew these
people in real life you would block them on Facebook.
跟電影本身一樣棒的事情是︰你無法忽視一個事實－假如你在現實生活中認識這種
人，你可能會在臉書上封鎖他們
Kam Williams
TheLoop21.com
FRESH，4/4
The scariest screen villain in a half century, since Psycho's Norman Bates,
given that this inscrutable creep actually exists in real life.
男主角可說是驚魂記的諾曼之後，50年來最可怕的銀幕反派，因為現實世界裡頭真的
有這種不可思議的討厭鬼
Eric D. Snider
EricDSnider.com
FRESH，A-
You wouldn't think a movie about the creation of a website could be so
enthralling, insightful, funny, and complex, but here we are.
你應該未曾想過一部關於熱門網站誕生的電影可以如此的迷人、具洞察力、有趣
又複雜，但我們今天終於看到了！
Chris Hewitt (St. Paul)
St. Paul Pioneer Press
FRESH，3.5/4
Everyone in The Social Network is smart. Everyone in The Social Network is
sarcastic. And that is big fun to watch.
社群網戰的每一個角色既聰明又充滿諷刺，這正是看本片的最大樂趣
Bob Mondello
NPR
FRESH，10/10
The Social Network is terrific entertainment - an unlikely thriller that
makes business ethics, class distinctions and intellectual-property arguments
sexy
社群網戰是頂級的娛樂，這部不可思議的驚悚片讓商業倫理、階級區隔與智慧財產權
的爭議變得更性感
Jonathan Williams
Little White Lies
FRESH，4/5
Business hasn't been this exciting since Gordon Gekko's first outing.
自從華爾街的高登第一次登場之後，這是商業主題電影第一次讓人這麼興奮
Luke Y. Thompson
E! Online
FRESH，A-
It's ironic that only a week after Oliver Stone's Wall Street sequel came
out, The Social Network schools the old man by absolutely nailing the new
generation of rich jerkwads
華爾街2上映一週之後，社群網戰就藉由揭露新世代混蛋富翁的內幕狠狠地教訓了
老前輩，這還真是諷刺啊！
Brandon Fibbs
BrandonFibbs.com
FRESH，10/10
The Social Network sets out to show you the genesis of a modern Rockefeller,
Carnegie or Vanderbilt. In the 21st century, information is the new oil, the
new steel. What hasn't changed is the mentality of the tycoon.
成功的說明現在版本洛克斐勒、卡內基或范德比特家庭的起源。在21世紀，資訊產業
好比新的石油或鋼鐵，但這些大人物的心態並不會改變
這三者都是作古的企業大亨
洛克斐勒是石油、卡內基是鋼鐵，范德比特則是交通建設
Alissa Wilkinson
Christianity Today
FRESH，3.5/4
The film's real achievement stretches beyond the story. When we've all
forgotten Facebook, The Social Network will remind us what it was to be part
of the generation of Millenials.
社片的真正成就比電影本身還高。即使我們不再使用臉書，本片也會提醒我們曾經是
千禧時代的成員之一
Harvey S. Karten
Compuserve
FRESH，A-
A sharply written tale expressing the irony that a man with five hundred
million subscribers has nary a friend in the world.
這個筆法銳利的故事，成功地傳遞出一個擁有五億會員，卻連一個朋友都沒有的人的
諷刺性
以下這兩則評論是有點出缺點，但整體說來仍算好評
Todd Gilchrist
Hollywood News
FRESH
an almost-great film whose cultural significance unfortunately outweighs its
emotional substance.
幾乎完美的作品，可惜的是在感情的刻劃還不如在文化意義上的著墨
Tom Long
Detroit News
FRESH，B
There's a cool precision and honesty to The Social Network, the story of the
founding of Facebook, which guarantees its entertainment value even as it
limits its emotional impact.
社群網站的精準與誠實的確夠酷，而這個關於臉書建立過程的故事也保證很有娛樂
價值—即使他在情感的衝擊力道上略顯不足
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當然，即使是奧斯卡大熱門，不滿意的還是大有人在
Michelle Alexandria
Eclipse Magazine
ROTTEN，C
What happens when a director and writer hate their subject? A well made, but
one dimensional hit piece.
假如導演與編劇討厭他們片中的主角會變得怎樣？他們的作品就只是製作精美的
單向攻擊文宣罷了
hit piece泛指選舉期間對於競爭對手提出缺點的攻擊式廣告
Eisenberg’s portrayal comes across as what Hollywood imagines a geek to be
like. His speech patterns and dialogue seemed so affected that it was
distracting and felt like I was watching a performance and not a person that
actually exists out in the real world. It’s as if he studied all of Michael
Cera’s movies and came up with this portrait of Zuckerburg.
愛森柏格的表演方式，就是好萊塢希望「技客」應有的樣子。他講話的模樣與講出來
的話，看起來像是被業界影響過而變得不真實，這種情況不僅會讓我分心，也讓我
感覺還是在看演員表演，而不是一個存在於真實世界的人。我猜他可能是用麥可賽拉
的電影，來當做詮釋索克柏的範本
補充
1.geek這個詞有褒有貶，最近經常拿來形容電腦技巧很好的人
但這種人多半在社交圈比較吃虧，因此至今仍帶有負面意味
2.affected我問了一些人，他們認為在這裡比較適合的翻譯是
"虛假/不真實"，但我覺得我先前"被（好萊塢）影響過"的版本其實也說得過去
因此兩種意思都保留
Kevin Carr
7M Pictures
ROTTEN，2.5/5
For years, Hollywood has tried to make hackers and computer programmers look
sexy, and it is similarly overdone here. I doubt Facebook groupies look like
Brenda Song, and Sean Parker is no Justin Timberlake (even if he thinks he
is)
近年來，好萊塢一直嘗試要讓駭客與電腦程式專家變得更性感，但這次真的太超過
了。我很懷疑臉書的追隨者會長得跟宋布蘭一樣正，而西恩帕克跟賈斯丁根本是兩種
不同的人（即使賈斯丁在片中認為他是西恩）
The bottom line is that I didn’t hate “The Social Network,” and it is
better than a fart in an elevator. But like certain other films that are
widely acclaimed (e.g., “There Will Be Blood,” “Crash” and “The Hurt
Locker”), I just didn’t think they were anything to write home about.
結論就是：我不討厭社群網站，他也的確比在電梯上放屁來得高級，但就跟以前其他
獲得高度讚譽的電影一樣，我就是不覺得他們值得這麼好的評價
Armond White
New York Press
ROTTEN
Like one of those fake-smart, middlebrow TV shows, the speciousness of The
Social Network is disguised by topicality.
就跟那些看似聰明其實普通的電視節目一樣，社群網戰的似是而非披上了「話題性」
這件華麗的外衣
In The Social Network, creepiness is heroized.
在片中，討厭的行為被過度英雄化
Victoria Alexander
FilmsInReview.com
ROTTEN
An anti-charismatic Charles Foster Kane with social issues, class status
anger, and homoerotic panic.
這個21世紀的Charles Foster Kane（經典名片大國民主角）不僅沒有魅力，有社交
問題與對階級狀況的憤怒，甚至還有恐懼同性戀的傾向
Screenwriter Aaron Sorkin and director David Fincher cannot make Mark a
charismatic latter-day Charles Foster Kane. At the very least, Orson Welles
showed joy at being a vicious, selfish titan. Kane’s lust for power was a
narcotic. Mark’s motivation is based on resentment.
索金與芬奇並不能把馬克變成充滿魅力的現代版大國民，歐森威爾斯起碼還成功地
傳遞出成為邪惡且自私大亨的喜悅。另外，大國民對權力的渴望像是一劑麻醉針，
馬克卻是以怨恨作為動機
THE SOCIAL NETWORK makes you push too hard to find the explanation of Mark’s
choices. If it wasn’t greed, then what drove him?
社群網戰並不能讓你完全明白馬克這些行為的目的，假如不是貪婪心在作祟，那又是
什麼因素驅動了他呢？
Lori Hoffman
Atlantic City Weekly
ROTTEN，2/4
Manipulation is the heart of this film, both in the story being told, and by
the filmmakers who molded the true story to fit their agenda.
無論片中故事本身，還是製作團隊為了符合主題對真實事件所做的塑造，「竄改」
這個詞都是本片的核心
似乎還是有人頗在意本片與現實的落差
Avi Offer
NYC Movie Guru
ROTTEN，5.49/10
Sure, the premise sounds initially intriguing, but if you think that The
Social Network will get inside the head of Mark Zuckerberg , think again.
當然，本片的設定乍聽之下的確很吸引人，但假如你認為看過社片就可以知道索克柏
在想什麼的話，那你的腦袋最好再想一想
Director David Fincher should stick to directing thrillers like Zodiac, Panic
Room, The Game, Fight Club and Seven because his foray into drama, the
lackluster, overlong Curious Case of Benjamin Button, was underwhelming which
can be said for The Social Network as well
我建議大衛芬奇應該回去執導過去索命黃道帶、顫慄空間、致命遊戲、鬥陣俱樂部
與火線追緝令那種驚悚片，因為他上部作品「班傑明的奇幻旅程」，不僅無生命力
且時間過長，而且並不能讓我留下深刻的印象，而相同的道理也同樣適用於社群網戰
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這次好評還蠻好找的，反倒是負評方面
由於數量不多的緣故，我還要花一些時間閱覽更完整的文章
才能找到我能理解而且有分享價值的部份
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口 口 口 口 口 口 口 Ｔｈｅ "Ｏｒｚ"ｅｓｔ
法 法 喀 英 英 象 德 Player in WorldCup?
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