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標題3000上下手搖磨豆機建議
時間Wed Oct 20 20:40:31 2021


有手沖跟義式機需求(ees200e+無底粉杯)
目前的考慮如下：
1. 1zpresso JE
2. Minos
3. 漢匠K6
4. 泰摩nano plus (或slim plus)
5. 望板上大神補充


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推 xwebber: 1z k系列 10/20 20:49
K系列超過預算了啦
※ 編輯: adam3553 (223.139.225.166 臺灣), 10/20/2021 20:55:45
推 archer9229: 遲早要升級 不如捏到底 10/20 20:59
推 jaysuzuki: JE 10/20 21:07
推 Yilan995: 1，器具買熱門商品，要升級好脫手 10/20 21:08
推 longtimens: je 10/20 21:10
推 CJhang: K等活動也才4000 方便度也完勝 就看要不要預支幾包豆子的 10/20 21:25
→ CJhang: 錢來升級 換取以後的方便 不然就1吧 10/20 21:25
推 kuan: 唯一推薦捏上1z k系列 10/20 21:38
推 alouis: 你遲早會升級的 為何不一開始就買 10/20 22:25
→ Garrys: J刀 10/20 22:32
推 scorpioliu: 義式有喝淺中焙K討喜酸香較明亮 10/20 22:35
推 soulivee: 磨豆機就是要捏，多一千不會讓你過不了生活 10/20 22:48
→ soulivee: 買最頂的，要出掉也跑得快 10/20 22:48
推 BlackBass: K系列 捏一下不會後悔 10/20 23:30
→ BlackBass: 你不知道咖啡板每位男鄉民都是公公嗎？ 10/20 23:30
推 longtimens: K不是效率型的嗎？磨義式淺焙很累吧 10/20 23:42
→ Garrys: K刀淺焙SOE需要吃奶 10/20 23:44
推 YouXiang: 講真的 三包豆的價差直上不虧 不然以後會後悔 10/21 00:07
推 manure54321: 漢匠K6 要注意每個部件會有色差；但是我建議直上1zpr 10/21 00:52
→ manure54321: esso的K系列，需要多種配件組合，可以考慮K-Plus，質 10/21 00:52
→ manure54321: 感好很多；磨義式的話，同支豆子，磨到ees200e能用的 10/21 00:52
→ manure54321: 粗細，感覺1zpresso的K-Plus比漢匠K6吃力。 10/21 00:52
推 jeff021044: 等咖啡展買1Z K啊 10/21 01:17
→ cray0928: 蝦皮搶券買k max 就算不愛也很好出手 10/21 02:25
推 Icta: 不覺得k刀在義式上比italmill贏多少，k刀根本不是純種義刀 10/21 06:06
→ Icta: 磨豆機的世界不是價格高的就比較好 10/21 06:06
→ Icta: 有的時候只是風味呈現的風格不同而已 10/21 06:07
推 loveactually: 建議直上EK43，少喝幾包藝妓就有了，咖啡器材永遠 10/21 07:47
→ loveactually: 比咖啡豆重要 10/21 07:47
推 longtimens: EK就不是幾包咖啡豆的事了，是上百上千包 10/21 07:50
→ Icta: 直上ek? ek是頂嗎? 如果不是為何只上到ek? 10/21 07:53
→ Icta: 我知道了，意思是只要少喝幾年咖啡，就可以買更好的磨豆機了 10/21 07:59
→ a9724145300: 推4樓 10/21 09:27
推 qqai: 直上k了啦 10/21 09:45
推 arlenyao: 10/21 10:32
推 jaysuzuki: 器材比豆子重要...嗯... 10/21 11:40
推 soulivee: 咖啡豆是CD，器材是你的音響系統 10/21 11:49
推 YouXiang: 不知道有什麼好槓的 3包而已捏一下的事情硬要無限上綱 10/21 13:14
→ YouXiang: 另外談K刀義式風味沒J刀好的 需求先看清楚吧... 10/21 13:28
推 CJhang: 兩三包豆子的錢 能提升二三十包豆子的體驗不好嗎？ 又不是 10/21 14:20
→ CJhang: 硬要花到二三十包豆子的錢升級== 10/21 14:20
推 jakkx: ....那句是反串吧… 10/21 16:35
推 happyonly: 花4k=省3k，買錯最貴 10/21 20:32
→ Garrys: 器材起碼到一定程度吧… 10/21 20:47
推 marcogs: 3000推JX的刀盤 10/22 01:01
→ Garrys: K刀明顯只是外型取勝 10/22 12:14
推 jaysuzuki: 借問樓上覺得K在手沖表現的弱點是什麼? 10/22 12:44
→ SURREALTMR: 建議最少選k系列.也好脫手. 10/22 15:41
→ Garrys: K刀弱點就是不夠好而已 10/23 15:25
→ Garrys: 手磨直接攻頂就很簡單 10/23 15:25
→ Garrys: 買好豆就好 10/23 15:25
推 eric21358611: C40啊 10/23 17:40






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